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first tasting of 2008 vintage

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sonnybeach - 28 Jun 2009 02:57 GMT
I went to a BBQ at my Mom's house this afternoon and I took two
bottles of my 2008 peach and my 2008 blackberry wine.

The blackberry wine was very good, but the peach wine was still a
little raw. Still, the alcohol content was there and the BBQ was a
very pleasant party for all.

I plan on letting the remainder of the bottling sit until about
September for trying it again. At that time the peach ought to be a
lot more mellow, and the blackberry ought to be even better.

My only comment about the blackberry is that I think I should use
more blackberries for greater fragrance. I think I used about 5 lbs
of blackberries per gallon for this last 2 gallon batch. This coming
year I hope to use about 8 lbs of blackberries per gallon for a 5
gallon batch.

I sweetened the blackberry wine with about  1/4 cup of sugar per
gallon and the peach wine with about 1/2 cup of sugar per gallon.
Neither wine seemed oversweet to me.

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Good Soldier Schweik - 28 Jun 2009 05:07 GMT
>I went to a BBQ at my Mom's house this afternoon and I took two
>bottles of my 2008 peach and my 2008 blackberry wine.
>
>The blackberry wine was very good, but the peach wine was still a
>little raw. Still, the alcohol content was there and the BBQ was a
>very pleasant party for all.

A question.

Did you add tannin, and if so approximately how much, per unit
(gallon, liter, etc.)

I have made several fruit wines from tropical fruits and have never
been really satisfied with the results and I believe that the reason
is that I did not use tannin..

cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
sonnybeach - 28 Jun 2009 16:13 GMT
> A question.
>
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> Schweik
> (goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

No I didn't use any tannin. I thought tannin was only for red grape
wine. Anyway, I didn't use any in either of these batches.

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Good Soldier Schweik - 29 Jun 2009 00:58 GMT
>> A question.
>>
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>No I didn't use any tannin. I thought tannin was only for red grape
>wine. Anyway, I didn't use any in either of these batches.

I believe that you mentioned adding sugar. Without the sugar does the
wine taste very acidic?

I believe that red wines have tannin and white wines do not and are
more acidic. I have been treating fruit wines that way but other then
the odd lot (just to make you believe that the next one will be
better) they have been rather unsatisfactory. I can't think of a
better word as they don't taste "bad" just not as good as I hope for.

cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
shbailey - 29 Jun 2009 04:00 GMT
Jack Keller considers 6 lbs of blackberries per gallon to be a heavy
bodied wine, so don't over do it.  http://winemaking.jackkeller.net
Look on the recipe page.  He is the fruit wine expert.

Jack often calls for the addition of grape tannin to give fruit wines
a little more "bite".

He also says that peaches usually need a second ingredient to give
sufficient body.

> I went to a BBQ at my Mom's house this afternoon and I took two
> bottles of my 2008 peach and my 2008 blackberry wine.
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> --
> Sonnybeach
Good Soldier Schweik - 29 Jun 2009 06:41 GMT
>Jack Keller considers 6 lbs of blackberries per gallon to be a heavy
>bodied wine, so don't over do it.  http://winemaking.jackkeller.net
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>He also says that peaches usually need a second ingredient to give
>sufficient body.

I just made a batch of lychee wine from Jack's recipe. It has finished
fermenting and is now in 20 Ltr. bottles. Hopefully it will be better
some of my other efforts :-)

>> I went to a BBQ at my Mom's house this afternoon and I took two
>> bottles of my 2008 peach and my 2008 blackberry wine.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>> --
>> Sonnybeach
cheers,

Schweik
(goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)
sonnybeach - 29 Jun 2009 21:51 GMT
>>Jack Keller considers 6 lbs of blackberries per gallon to be a heavy
>>bodied wine, so don't over do it.  http://winemaking.jackkeller.net
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>He also says that peaches usually need a second ingredient to give
>>sufficient body.

That sounds like a good idea for my peach wine. It needs something
more. Anyone have any suggestions about what to add?

> I just made a batch of lychee wine from Jack's recipe. It has finished
> fermenting and is now in 20 Ltr. bottles. Hopefully it will be better
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Schweik
> (goodsoldierschweikatgmaildotcom)

I'm planning on making about 5 gallons of blackberry this year and as
much peach as I can with the fruit I get from my one tree. I also
have a crabapple tree on my property and I have seen at least one
recipe for crabapple wine, so I'm thinking of trying a gallon or two
of that this year.

I have the Keller site bookmarked so I'll go back and read that more
carefully about the peach wine additions.

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marika - 02 Jul 2009 02:49 GMT
> Jack Keller considers 6 lbs of blackberries per gallon to be a heavy
> bodied wine, so don't over do it.  http://winemaking.jackkeller.net
> Look on the recipe page.

Interesting website.  You are certainly up on the latest. All in all,
one can't help but infer or possibly intuit that this will be a robust
year \(hopefully us
included in our quest for the brass ring)

mk5000

""and that's the confusion
it's so hard for me
to draw a conclusion
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